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J'ignore si dans la version finale, il y aura l'ajout de plusieurs jokers : un ou deux joker(s) temporel(s) dans la version chronométrée par exemple qui nous donneraient une allonge de temps supplémentaire pour répondre à la question ; ou un joker qui fournit un indice pour nous mettre sur la voie de la réponse correcte pour des questions comportant un haut niveau de complexité seraient assez sympa. Avec éventuellement la possibilité pour les joueurs les plus aguerris de refuser les jokers avant que ne commence la partie.
Bon courage pour la poursuite de ce remarquable projet.
What I played of this was fun and charming, though sadly it runs somewhat badly on my potato computer. But some of the statements don't have the argument stated, which makes determining which fallacy was used difficult.
Example: for the statement "Well, eating vegetables won't make you immortal," I marked it as valid as I didn't get the implied argument of "So we shouldn't bother eating healthily." I just read it as a true statement.
Since the game presents the statements out of their imagined contexts, I think it's important that the arguments be stated in full rather than relying on the player intuiting unspoken parts of the argument, especially in hard mode.
Hi thanks for the feedback! Yes some of the statement will have more context for the release, otherwise they can be misleading. But it's also hard to not give it away too easily ^^. Could you give me your specs? I could try to include some settings to make it run better but uglier.
J'ai trouvé ce jeu très ambitieux, original. Je l'ai immédiatement montré à mes enfants pour jouer avec eux. Jeu extrêmement plaisant. Je le recommande.
Lovely looking game. This won't sharpen critical thinking skills whilst the fallacies aren't explained in context. For example, an invalid answer should be presented with an explanation of where the fallacy is because some of these are quite arbitrary.
Hi, thanks for your comment, this is indeed needed for the game to be complete, that's planned for the final release of the game. The game is still in beta right now. Thanks for your feedback :)
This game is so neat. I really can't wait for the finished version, I'd love to read about all the fallacies in the charming game environment you've created.
I assume you'd have done it anyway, but there are a few statements that have typos or dropped/added words in them, so I definitely recommend going over all of them before the official release.
Super awesome game, you've done an incredible job with it. :D
Such a fun game! I know it's a beta so here's a quick impression: - The sound levels could be fine tuned a bit more but the menu is really high quality so it doesn't bother the experience - The length of a game is a bit quick which is nice to chill but sometimes we want to learn more about the reasons why it's valid and why it's not. The glossary you expect to release could become accessible with a hint button when the player fails
Overall it's pretty fun, educational and very engaging with such cool drawings and animations. I'm eager to have more debates now just to encounter one situation from your game xD.
Bravo pour le jeu BPT ! Excellent boulot et soutien par l’achat + go battre mon record c’est fort ce projet, fucking sophiiiisme
Petit retour : peut être que des phrases plus longues ou des situations complexes un peu mise en avant (comme on peut avoir lorsque y’a des sujets d’actualité et le traitement phallacieux qui en sont fait dans les médias meme dans les débats) pourraient être intéressantes, dans un mode hardcore, bien que peut être les exemple seraient peut être un peu trop politisant ou clivant comparé au ton du jeu ? Mais en passant par des allégories ça pourraient faire passer un message, même en imbriquant un lore dans les situations ca créeraient une sorte de mode histoire au jeu avec des petits personnages et des éléments qui reviennnebt pas mal et qui font que la « replay value seraient agréable tout en apprenant les rhétoriques fallacieuses. Et justement la rhétorique phallacieuse sont encore plus dur à discerner quand la situation est un peu plus complexe et résumé en 5 à 10 phrases, mais je pense faudrait ça soit dans un mode « hardcore » ou dit complexe pour pas que ça soit la première Game qui soit comme ça. Je sais pas si j’ai été clair
Awesome game, love the concept. I like the hard mode the best, it really helps me to get good at spotting which specific logical fallacy is being used.
I will probably be gifting a couple copies to people around me, our society seriously needs a reality check when it comes to falling for bad reasoning, this game could actually help people alot.
The title screen literally seduced me, due to the artistic quality and the brilliant idea of combining the intelligent theme of fallacious remarks with naive moving drawings and the good old slate of our childhood. The quiz is very well done and teaches a lot. It makes you think and the pleasure of playing it to challenge yourself and your friends is real. Congratulations to the developer for all the little discoveries which allow us to present the scores and push us to do better in the best possible time. I liked the idea of combos which allow you to surpass your own best score. After this game, I feel more equipped to attempt discussions without being manipulated.
Great beta. The time limit can be stressful though, I think it should be an optional feature. Alongside having a mode with no time limit, it would be nice to have little info box to explain the meaning of each fallacy during play, I think it would be much more appealing for the players to learn during play and connect the dot themselves rather than looking in a fallacydex. Also having no time limit would make the game appealing to play with other people or a streaming audience.
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Un outil éducatif d'une grande utilité pour naviguer sur la toile avec davantage de sécurité surtout lorsque l'on flâne sur des sites d'actualité.
J'ignore si dans la version finale, il y aura l'ajout de plusieurs jokers : un ou deux joker(s) temporel(s) dans la version chronométrée par exemple qui nous donneraient une allonge de temps supplémentaire pour répondre à la question ; ou un joker qui fournit un indice pour nous mettre sur la voie de la réponse correcte pour des questions comportant un haut niveau de complexité seraient assez sympa. Avec éventuellement la possibilité pour les joueurs les plus aguerris de refuser les jokers avant que ne commence la partie.
Bon courage pour la poursuite de ce remarquable projet.
Merci pour ces retours :)
Thanks for the feedback!
What I played of this was fun and charming, though sadly it runs somewhat badly on my potato computer. But some of the statements don't have the argument stated, which makes determining which fallacy was used difficult.
Example: for the statement "Well, eating vegetables won't make you immortal," I marked it as valid as I didn't get the implied argument of "So we shouldn't bother eating healthily." I just read it as a true statement.
Since the game presents the statements out of their imagined contexts, I think it's important that the arguments be stated in full rather than relying on the player intuiting unspoken parts of the argument, especially in hard mode.
Thank you.
Hi thanks for the feedback! Yes some of the statement will have more context for the release, otherwise they can be misleading. But it's also hard to not give it away too easily ^^. Could you give me your specs? I could try to include some settings to make it run better but uglier.
Oh I'm on a 9-yo laptop is probably why. Specs: Macbook Pro early 2015; 2.7 Ghz Dual-Core Intel i5; 8 GB RAM 1867 MHz DDR3; Intel Iris 6100 1536 MB.
Thank you for your time!
If the fallacy fallacy isn't here then this is no true fallacy quiz
I forgot about that one, I'm adding it to the final version, thanks 😅.
Don't forget to include formal fallacies. Informal fallacies are good to know but formal logic is what gets you places.
Yes there are informal and formal fallacies in the game already. I might add more formal fallacies after I add the glossary.
J'ai trouvé ce jeu très ambitieux, original. Je l'ai immédiatement montré à mes enfants pour jouer avec eux. Jeu extrêmement plaisant. Je le recommande.
Lovely looking game. This won't sharpen critical thinking skills whilst the fallacies aren't explained in context. For example, an invalid answer should be presented with an explanation of where the fallacy is because some of these are quite arbitrary.
Hi, thanks for your comment, this is indeed needed for the game to be complete, that's planned for the final release of the game. The game is still in beta right now. Thanks for your feedback :)
This game is so neat. I really can't wait for the finished version, I'd love to read about all the fallacies in the charming game environment you've created.
I assume you'd have done it anyway, but there are a few statements that have typos or dropped/added words in them, so I definitely recommend going over all of them before the official release.
Super awesome game, you've done an incredible job with it. :D
Thank you very much for your comment :)
Thank you very much for your game. I really appreciate you choosing to make and publish it, with all the efforts and work that go into those things.
Such a fun game! I know it's a beta so here's a quick impression:
- The sound levels could be fine tuned a bit more but the menu is really high quality so it doesn't bother the experience
- The length of a game is a bit quick which is nice to chill but sometimes we want to learn more about the reasons why it's valid and why it's not. The glossary you expect to release could become accessible with a hint button when the player fails
Overall it's pretty fun, educational and very engaging with such cool drawings and animations. I'm eager to have more debates now just to encounter one situation from your game xD.
Can't wait for the next versions!
Bravo pour le jeu BPT ! Excellent boulot et soutien par l’achat + go battre mon record c’est fort ce projet, fucking sophiiiisme
Petit retour : peut être que des phrases plus longues ou des situations complexes un peu mise en avant (comme on peut avoir lorsque y’a des sujets d’actualité et le traitement phallacieux qui en sont fait dans les médias meme dans les débats) pourraient être intéressantes, dans un mode hardcore, bien que peut être les exemple seraient peut être un peu trop politisant ou clivant comparé au ton du jeu ? Mais en passant par des allégories ça pourraient faire passer un message, même en imbriquant un lore dans les situations ca créeraient une sorte de mode histoire au jeu avec des petits personnages et des éléments qui reviennnebt pas mal et qui font que la « replay value seraient agréable tout en apprenant les rhétoriques fallacieuses. Et justement la rhétorique phallacieuse sont encore plus dur à discerner quand la situation est un peu plus complexe et résumé en 5 à 10 phrases, mais je pense faudrait ça soit dans un mode « hardcore » ou dit complexe pour pas que ça soit la première Game qui soit comme ça. Je sais pas si j’ai été clair
Parfait, grâce à ce jeu vous ne ferrez plus jamais une erreur de pensée logique XD
This game is awesome!
It's very helpful to overcome my illogical arguments!
So pleasent! Thanks!
Thank you for this lovely work :)
Awesome game, love the concept. I like the hard mode the best, it really helps me to get good at spotting which specific logical fallacy is being used.
I will probably be gifting a couple copies to people around me, our society seriously needs a reality check when it comes to falling for bad reasoning, this game could actually help people alot.
The title screen literally seduced me, due to the artistic quality and the brilliant idea of combining the intelligent theme of fallacious remarks with naive moving drawings and the good old slate of our childhood. The quiz is very well done and teaches a lot. It makes you think and the pleasure of playing it to challenge yourself and your friends is real. Congratulations to the developer for all the little discoveries which allow us to present the scores and push us to do better in the best possible time. I liked the idea of combos which allow you to surpass your own best score. After this game, I feel more equipped to attempt discussions without being manipulated.
Great beta.
The time limit can be stressful though, I think it should be an optional feature.
Alongside having a mode with no time limit, it would be nice to have little info box to explain the meaning of each fallacy during play, I think it would be much more appealing for the players to learn during play and connect the dot themselves rather than looking in a fallacydex.
Also having no time limit would make the game appealing to play with other people or a streaming audience.
Yeah, I would like to play it without a timer so I can discuss each scenario with my girlfriend.
Yes this mode is confirmed for the final release :) thanks for the feedback it's a great idea